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    Can they stop? I’m tired of having to relearn how to use the same dumb system every time they come out with a new version. Even more obnoxious is how they keep moving further in a gesture direction. Stop taking away my damn buttons!

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    Ugh, I don’t like what they’ve shown here. It looks like iOS, and it looks dated at that. I’m open to it looking nicer once take, but I’m not holding my breath.

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    it’s an improvement but I’m still not happy about these huge ass buttons in the notification shade that could easily be half the size. Theres so much wasted space. I used to be able to access 6 quick tiles in the minimized shade. now its 4. Used to have 9-12 tiles on a full shade. now we have 8.

    If you’re going to continue to make 6"+ phones, USE THE SCREEN SPACE FOR FUCKS SAKE

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      Phones used to be small enough to fit in your pocket, had features that made them useful, and came in a variety of form factors (remember sliding keyboards!?). This is not the future we were promised or the future that we wanted. Today every phone is a rectangular slab that most people can’t reach from the bottom all the way to the top with their thumbs. They are made flimsy so that you must buy a case to entomb your phone in if you want it to last. They have weird bulbous protrusions like google’s camera bar and apple’s lenses so that you even have to look for a case that makes the device ergonomic to have in your hand. They come with spyware you didn’t want, and battery draining features. It used to be a single charge could get your phone through a day and a half. Now they promise us batteries that will last 3+ days and deliver experiences that the battery is drained after 12 hours.

      Smartphones are not for us. They are tools of the oppressor class. Kurt Vonnegut was terrified at the prospect of television as a mechanism for addictive control of the populace, but never could he have imagined the terrifying reality of the smartphone. William Gibson did though. He didn’t think it would be a compact rectangle that fits in our pocket, but he did think we would all become addicted to a massively online network of computers that we were never truly separated from even as we navigated the physical world. The problem is too many people read the Sprawl trilogy and thought they would be the super cool hackers that have lots of sex, failing to recognize that the main characters of those books are brutally depressed broken people who are addicted to sex, drugs, and the internet.

      And I’m one to talk. I have my phone sitting here next to me. It was made by a big tech company using slave labor. It’s ensconced in a rubbery pink case to keep it from getting brutalized by the realities of my clumsiness. I have apps installed on it. I check it throughout the day. But I would get rid of it instantly if my work would provide me with a hardware MFA device. They will not because “it costs too much money.” It would cost them $60 to furnish me with one. “But that doesn’t scale to all of our employees and contractors.” We all get paid 6 figures and receive various benefits through the company. That when faced with a choice between furnishing us with MFA devices or requiring we own smartphones, they choose the latter. They even give us a $150 stipend to make sure we have a smartphone. They are spending more to make sure we have smartphones that it would cost to have MFA devices that they claim are too expensive.

      Why? The only reason I can fathomably come up with is that a smartphone also keeps us shackled to our work. We can be out walking our dogs and get a notification ding on our phones and immediately be back to thinking about what we were doing at our desk. Nowhere are we free from work when we have a smartphone in our pocket. The administrative state has us at their constant beck and call. And what’s more, the law enforcement agencies love our phones, too. They have GPS, tower triangulation, and with 5G the towers are closer together and the triangulation is more precise. Never, so long as your smartphone is powered on, are you truly free from the surveillance state. And I don’t even think there’s any one person (except for maybe Peter Thiel) who likes every aspect of this system of power between the bosses, landlords, law enforcement agencies, and technocrats. I don’t even think each aspect of the system is aware of their role in the system. But nevertheless, the system of oppression and torture we live under persists to the benefit of 22 truly horrible human beings.

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    Look up in the sky, it’s a bird it’s a plane, it’s the Funk Doctor Spot smoking buddha on a train it’s a miUI, it’s an iOS.

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    So the strategy is that. Just rotate designs and features. Take them off and put them back so people get excited again for something of the past.

    Fucking Google. You ad bastards.

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    Yawn, smoke and mirrors when you’re unable to do something useful.

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    Ooh, ah, thinner sliders, background blur in quick settings.

    Quit fucking around, and give us real changes. Like letting us fully disable immersive apps (I’d like to see my status bar in maps, thank you very much), fix the worthless waste of space oval quick settings, which I just stopped using because they’re now useless. I went and loaded a sidebar app, because it works so much better than the now pointless quick settings.

    And let users adjust a lot more stuff, like for accessibility. I can’t imaging handing a new phone to someone with vision or motor issues. I hit the wrong thing all the time, and I don’t have either issue.

    Oh, bringing color back to the status bar, but only for Google icons? Can I please have the color back like I had, oh 15 years ago? So I know who messaged me by the color of the icon?

    Keep on dumbing things down, while also making them more opaque.

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    Literally just rehashing old UI that’s been around for over a decade.

    Windows Vista, Rainmeter and custom Windows themes from Deviantart have had these motifs for over a decade.

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      It’s closer to Win8’s Metro and Win10s FluentUI more than Vista’s Aero but your point still stands. These are decade old design philosophies.

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      Really? Eww, what a pity. But not surprising.

      Edit:

      What this new design potentially sacrifices in contrast and immediate readability, it arguably gains in aesthetics.

      Man, fuck that shit. Form follows function, but instead they are doing what Apple and Windows 10/11 have done: make it ✨pretty✨ instead of fucking readable and actually usable.

      Fuck background blur in particular. I want stark contrasts so shit is easy to read under any conditions.

      I’m too old for this shit.

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        Man, fuck that shit. Form follows function, but instead they are doing what Apple and Windows 10/11 have done: make it ✨pretty✨ instead of fucking readable and actually usable.

        I’m still pissed that in Windows 10 they removed the border around the title bar so I constantly click on the wrong ‘X’ when trying to close a window because they all fucking blend together with the windows open behind them. I’ve been forced to use Windows 11 at work and it fucking sucks with so much padding and wasted space around icons and whatnot.

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        The lack of blur, shadows, and color on Android are what keep me angrily on iOS despite how locked down it is. I see what you’re saying about contrast being easier on the eyes, but why can’t that just be an option on Android like it is on iOS? You can reduce blur and increase contrast in accessibility settings in iOS.

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          Android is unlikely to look like iOS now or in the future. The UI of Android just doesn’t focus on it.

          Android is generally pretty aesthetically pleasing assuming you aren’t looking for an Apple clone

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            It’s absolutely possible to have full transparency and blur everywhere without being a copy. Android has a bunch of advantages that it can leverage over iOS. Multi window blur would be essential to express the depth and just plain look better than the current implementation.

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              That would drive me crazy honestly. I don’t see blur happening any time soon. Is blur really the deal breaker?

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                Yeah. I left windows at windows 8 because of it. At the same time, I left Android because I could no longer build a custom ROM with blur on a Samsung phone (it was around the time Samsung started locking USA bootloaders). The plain, flat, zero layer context drove me away pretty hard. Also, Android just looks super outdated, like as if it came out in the windows ME era and never got more than a color overhaul.