Documentation for nanogram available here for awhile
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Dont be a ungrateful Be nice pls. I put a lot of time, effort, and my own money into making this. I’m choosing to freely share it :)
Yes I get help from LLM’s. Review the code if you think it’s unsafe, or just move on and don’t use it. Happy to answer any technical questions.
Edit 2: Expanded source code for termux version here.
Edit 3: Expanded source for pi version here
Had a quick skim and found this little guy:
# ---------- Protected media route ---------- @app.route('/img/<path:name>') @login_required def media(name): db = SessionLocal() try: me = current_user(db) # Find the post with this image post = db.query(Post).filter_by(image_path=name).first() if post: # Check visibility can_view = post.user_id == me.id or db.query(UserVisibility).filter_by( owner_id=post.user_id, viewer_id=me.id ).first() is not None if not can_view: abort(403) return send_from_directory(UPLOAD_DIR, os.path.basename(name)) finally: db.close()I’ve not read through everything, but there are some security concerns that jump out to me from just this function. Hopefully you can enlighten me on them.
Firstly, what is stopping a logged in user from accessing any image that, for whatever reason, doesn’t have an associated post for it?
Secondly, the return codes for “the image doesn’t exist” (404) and “the image exists but you can’t access it” (403) look to be different. This means that a logged in user can check whether a given filename (e.g. “epstien_and_trump_cuddling.jpg”) has been uploaded or not by any user.
Both of these look to be pretty bad security issues, especially for a project touting its ability to protect from nationstates. Am I missing something?
- I disclaim the opposite, I don’t tout its ability against nation states in the Readme.
- There are two checks for someone on the server to be able to view a post. First, are you a valid user? Then did the person sharing the photo give you access to view their posts? If both are true you can see the post. Also, on upload to the server, the image get compressed and stripped of any meta data including the file name…so no they couldn’t check a file name. Each photo is given a randomly generated filename.
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- There can’t be any posts without images attached. There will always be a post and an image. (unless it’s a 1-1 DM or group chat) which has its own rules for access.
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You list “Activist/journalist secure communication” as a use case. Not all countries have freedom of press.
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Looks like you name images based on a random uuid, so that should protect against filename attacks. But if you do have a filename you can tell whether the image has been an image or not.
Also, looks like all uploads are converted to jpg, regardless as to whether the original image was a jpg (or even an image) or not. Don’t do that.
- Can you point to where in code this invariant is enforced?
- You list “Activist/journalist secure communication” as a use case. Not all countries have freedom of press.
Is that an inaccurate claim? It should provide the means to organize and communicate securely…to the extent Tor is secure, and if your using the official Tor browser, web crypto can be utilized for group and 1-1s for an additional layer of encryption. I thought it was a fine claim. It should be able to handle quite a few people messaging all at once on the PI varient.
- Looks like you name images based on a random uuid, so that should protect against filename attacks. But if you do have a filename you can tell whether the image has been an image or not.
How would you ever discover a filename?
If you did have a filename and the exact url to the image you would need to be logged in as a valid user, and the person who shared the photo would have needed to allow access to their profile.
Even if you have the correct link, if those two conditions arnt satisfied you will not be able to view.
Also, looks like all uploads are converted to jpg, regardless as to whether the original image was a jpg (or even an image) or not. Don’t do that.
This was a design choice to have consistency in filetypes. What’s the downside? All browsers will support displaying a jpg.
- Can you point to where in code this invariant is enforced?
Which part are you talking about? The image compression is defined as the compress and store function.
The “API reference” in the readme goes into further specifics on how this works with flask.
Everything except the login page, registration link will behind these two checks see (def login) where the @loginrequired logic is defined for each of the app routes.
to the extent Tor is secure
Tor doesn’t automatically secure your app. If your social media instance has 1000 users on it, and one user gets compromised, then the other 999 users shouldn’t have any interactions outside of that user leaked.
web crypto can be utilized for group and 1-1s for an additional layer of encryption
Are file uploads encrypted?
How would you ever discover a filename?
Maybe you have a data leak. Maybe they send the filename in plaintext somewhere. Maybe they take advantage of the fact that UUIDs might be deterministic. But if I may flip the question… Why does an inaccessible post even need to return 403 anyway? It just functions as a big footgun that may cause any other exploits to behave worse.
Even if you have the correct link, if those two conditions arnt satisfied you will not be able to view.
But you can determine its existence or not through the status code.
This was a design choice to have consistency in filetypes. What’s the downside? All browsers will support displaying a jpg.
Gifs will lose any animation, pngs will lose quality. Also, as far as I can tell, there’s nothing stopping a malicious user uploading a non-image file.
Which part are you talking about?
There are two steps to making a post: Upload and store the image and add the post to the database. There’s also similar steps to deleting a post: Removing the image upload and removing the post from the database. Are both these operations atomic?
Everything except the login page, registration link will behind these two checks see (def login) where the @loginrequired logic is defined for each of the app routes.
It’s not that hard for a sufficiently motivated adversary to get an account on a sufficiently large instance. You need to ensure that one user account being compromised doesn’t result in information leakage from unrelated accounts.
This discussion stems from issues I found in just one function. You’re making a product which requires a very high level of security. You need to understand how to write secure code, and your LLM won’t be able to do it for you.
I don’t want to discourage you from programming in general, but making a very secure social media site is a rather complex undertaking for someone new to programming.
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Don’t be mad when ppl don’t like LLM code. You can release something for free but calling people ungrateful for not liking seems a bit… entitled.
Sorry I don’t mean to come off entitled. It’s not a very constructive community though that’s unfortunate haha.
It’s not a very constructive community though
You need guidance in your presentation style, you have managed to completely alienate your potential users in one single post.
No one owes you anything. No one asked you to spend time and money on a project. Calling folks “ungrateful” while trying to attract them to your project is weird.
It was a light hearted plea. I hope people can see past my lack of style and I don’t mean to offend you. I was surprised at all the negativitiy.
Almost 9k lunes of python in a bash script. Lmao. No.
Why put all the Python code in the script?
Apparently it was all ai generated and the author doesn’t actually know how to program. Just look at their responses in the .ml cross-post, that’s not someone whose software I would trust.
And it’s worse because they hide the Python code, which means that they can’t use tools like uv or ruff to check that everything works properly. I don’t understand why people do this.
I dont understand why people do this
Charitably: AI turbocharged dunning-kruger
Less charitable: Malware delivery.
There is no good reason why they couldn’t have a normal source tree, that they pack into a single shell script in CI.
Here is the source tree.
Sorry, but a photo of a directory structure is not a source tree.
Your git repo consists of 4 files, a readme, a licence, and two packed shell scripts.
If you have an actual published source repo, link people to it.
So just a expanded file structure directory is what you want? The script executable expands to each individual piece once run.
What do you mean a actual published source repo? I do not understand how its not that. Everything is packaged into one script.
Yes. Separate out each part out. You are currently publishing the equivalent of of a compiled binary. Split it up, and use a script to “compile” it back into the mega shell script.
It means that changes to each file can tracked (and audited) individually, you can conditionally compile bits in or out, and most usefully, you can write tests for the individual components.
Also the normal and rpi versions are two completely independent implementations of the same software. So now the LLMs have twice the maintenance load.
I didn’t diff the two files but even the startup and control code appears to be custom for each version.
Better? https://gitlab.com/here_forawhile/nanogram-termux
Dedicated expanded pi version coming later.
They are different environments, and so there are many changes that take place in order for it to work on a PI.
The core app and features are a mirror.
What do you mean?
look at their responses in the .ml cross-post,
that post is now deleted, but you can see their modlog here
That’s wild that the mod thinks it’s off topic. Thanks for shareing that I didn’t even realize I had been censored by the mods.
AI generated I guess… with love, time, money, and care from me. Take it or leave it lol.
I made this on mobile, and one monolithic file was how I can quickly iterate and test each feature.
Every time I added a new feature I had to test it’s function to test if it was properly implemented and exactly what I wanted. Keeping it all one file means I could copy paste it into the terminal. Running it overwrites all the home directory instantly with all my updates across the python, db, html, css.
I’ve been experimenting with Vibe Coding for a few months. I recommend you do some beginner tutorials on coding, at least python.
Then, using what you have learned, have your AI vibe coding assistant refactor your code into something manageable.
Just because it works, doesn’t mean it’s ready for others to use. If you want to vibe code an app for yourself and it works, that’s fine. But this is… python code, in a bash script? You need to clean it up and make it more professional before you share it.
