cross-posted from: https://poptalk.scrubbles.tech/post/2333639

I was just forwarded this someone in my household who watches our server. That’s it folks. I’ve been a hold out for a long time, but this is honestly it.

They want me to pay to stream content that I bought from my hardware transcoded also on my hardware.

I’ll say it. As of today, I say Plex is dead. Luckily I’ve been setting up Jellyfin, I guess it’s time to make it production ready.

Edit: I have a Plex Pass. More comments saying “Just buy a plex pass” are seriously not getting it. I have a Plex Pass and my users are still getting this.

And for the thousandth person who wants to say the same things to me:

  • YES I know I’m unaffected as a Plex Pass owner.
  • My users were immediately angry at it, which made me angry. Our users don’t understand what plex pass is, and they shouldn’t have to, that’s why I had it. The fact that they were pinged even though it should have kept working is horribly sloppy
  • Plex is still removing functionality. I don’t care that “People should pay their fair share”. If Plex wants to put every new feature behind a paywall, that’s completely okay. They are removing functionality.
    • “But they have cloud costs”. Remote streaming is negligible to them. It’s a dynamic DNS service. Plex client logs in, asks where server is, plex cloud responds with the IP and port of where server is located. That’s it.
    • “Good luck finding another remote streaming” - Again, Plex just opens up an IP and port. Jellyfin also just opens up an IP and port (Hold on jellyfin folks I know, security, that’s a separate conversation). All “remote streaming” is is their dynamic dns. Literal pennies to them. Know what actually is costing them money? Hosting all of that ad-supported “free” content that they’re probably losing money on.

In short, I don’t care how you justify it. Plex is doing something shitty. They’re removing functionality that has been free for years. I’m not responding to any more of your comments repeating the same arguments over and over.

    • Revilo62@lemmy.worldEnglish
      55·
      2 days ago

      That’s another service that doesn’t provide free remote streaming, not without setting up remote access in a way that would also work for Plex. So why is this the change that’s making you leave Plex?

      • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
        62·
        2 days ago

        Jellyfin absolutely does provide free remote streaming. Plex use to, but no longer will. That is why it’s a change making people switch.

        • Revilo62@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          1 day ago

          I’ll ask you the same question… What steps did you take to get it streaming outside of your house?

          • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
            41·
            1 day ago

            You can forward a port in your router like you would with Plex, or you can use a reverse proxy, or Tailscale Funnel if you want to get jazzy wit it.

            Then all you do on the client side is pop in the address.

            • Revilo62@lemmy.worldEnglish
              22·
              1 day ago

              like you would with Plex

              And that’s the point I’m making. The work required to expose Jellyfin to the world is the same work to expose Plex. This change to Plex just charges for the relay servers, you can still do free remote streaming in the same way Jellyfin does. So if feels a bit ridiculous to claim Plex is dead and everyone should switch to Jellyfin, when Jellyfin isn’t actually providing anything Plex doesn’t still do for free.

              • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
                31·
                24 hours ago

                You’ve misunderstood Plex’s announcement.

                This change to Plex just charges for the relay servers, you can still do free remote streaming in the same way Jellyfin does.

                This is not correct. The change to Plex affects all remote streaming, regardless of whether you’re using the relay or direct streaming.

                To be clear,

                • You have configured Plex for remote streaming without a relay - You will need to pay for Plex Pass or the Watch Pass
                • You have configured Jellyfin for remote streaming the same way as you would with Plex - Free.
                • Revilo62@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  22·
                  23 hours ago

                  It still works with internal streaming, and if you configure the networking correctly it won’t know the difference. If you setup Tailscale, you can still do Plex remote streaming for free. You just can’t rely on plex.tv to relay your connection automatically.

                  • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    21·
                    22 hours ago

                    Ok so before when you said:

                    The work required to expose Jellyfin to the world is the same work to expose Plex.

                    What you actually meant was the work required to expose Jellyfin to the world is entirely different from the work you have to do to now expose Plex without paying. And the simplest solution of forwarding a port will no longer work for free, and anyone you share it with now also has to connect their device to Tailscale (if they even can on their device) even if they’re non-technical? And to be frank I’m not even sure doing all that will even work.

                    Where as with Jellyfin you can remotely stream without having to do ANY of that, for free…

                    Are you starting to understand why this might make people just switch to Jellyfin?

      • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techOPEnglish
        65·
        2 days ago

        I don’t understand why people keep saying that. I can stream outside my network. Others can stream it from outside my network. That’s remote streaming in my book.

          • kratoz29@lemm.eeEnglish
            5·
            2 days ago

            Probably the same steps you’d need to if you use Plex and are CGNATED (thanks CGNAT for teaching me basic networking).