I don’t want to just uninstall the updates
yeah, kind of defeats the entire purpose, when the thing can simply update itself and keeps acting like a rootkit.
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@baatliwala@lemmy.world
I stumbled upon Canta & Shizuku which when combined can enable removal of (system level) apps on Android devices. I haven’t gone crazy removing stuff however I am following cautiously the lists of recommended and safe apps.
Have installed Shizuku and Canta on my two devices. Indeed simpler than my ‘old fashioned’ but trusted use of laptop and adb. Appears to do the same job and just as well.
Can you no longer simply uninstall system apps using adb, or is this just an alternative method?
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So Canta (https://github.com/samolego/Canta) is the app that uninstalls and Shizuku (https://shizuku.rikka.app/) is the app that allows Canta to access the system.
Together they’re basically just a UI ‘easy to use’ alternative to direct adb via terminal. Canta displays a list of all apps on the phone system conveniently marked with recommendations for removal - e.g. Recommended | Unsafe | System | Advanced | Expert
I know it’s more work to setup however for ease of use after that I like it. There are lists available (on Github for example) of apps that have been installed on most phone models and I would use these lists anyway if I was using adb+terminal. Now using Canta IT checks the lists, and provides me a visual interface to the apps that are installed on my phone, compared to the compiled lists, and then marks them … then it lets me remove or not as I see fit.
In summary, it’s seems to be a nice(?kind of) UI to adb designed for ease of use.
I need to look at Canta. 4 years now with Sony device treated to some adb slimming plus RethinkDNS & firewall. Tempted by Libre OS or Fairphone 6. Can’t quite afford Pixel with GOS. Food for thought.
I’m also on the search for a different phone that is more open and onto which I can install de-googled android or linux. Maybe Jolla phone? or Fairphone? I don’t really want (or like tbh) a Pixel.
It runs a wifi adb to connect the device to itself.
When will it be possible to uninstall g*gle play itself?
Easily done with ADB. Though quite a few apps won’t work properly afterwards, especially notifications and embedded maps.
Only works properly when the OS supports signature spoofing or you use a root module to do it.
Try GrapheneOS or any other similar custom ROM.
OK. Can I do it from an european phone?
GOS is an example for Pixels, there are other custom ROMs that support more hardware.
Graphene will run on all Pixels I think. They don’t make a distinction on their website.
For other phones, Lineage is a great alternative OS if a phone is bootloader unlockable and there’s a build for it.
GOS supports Pixels only.
But not uninstalling Google Play itself.
“That’s illegal”
