• ByteOnBikes@discuss.onlineOP
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    According to this, he isn’t ice. But then again, ICE isn’t exactly open about who actually works there.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-11-17/riverside-county-off-duty-officer-points-gun-at-teen

    Gerardo Rodriguez, 46, was known by neighbors to be an agent employed by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement or Customs and Border Patrol, said Greg Kirakosian, a lawyer representing the teenager. An ICE spokesperson wrote that Rodriguez is not employed by the agency. A CBP spokesperson said in a statement: “This matter is under investigation.”

    The teenager had driven by Rodriguez’s home in Temecula to drop friends off at a nearby house at around 10 p.m. on Nov. 10, Kirakosian said. When he drove back he was stopped by Rodriguez, who pulled a gun. The Riverside County Sheriff’s Department was dispatched at around 10:40 p.m., according to a news release.

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    illegally detained a minor at gunpoint whilst off duty is so many bad things in one.

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      CBP has always been a big employer of people who can speak spanish. You’d be surprised how many of the federal government’s lowest level enforcers are hispanic or latino.

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        Throughout the entirety of documented history about 1/3 of literally every demographic of people (including yours!) are complete shit. This is why we always have and always will struggle and fail with meaningful progress.

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          I hope that’s not the case. We’ve moved a long way from BCE to now, and even in the past hundred years humanity has made significant strides in our collective morals in regards to others. I hate being positive, but maybe this current black mark of governing that is hammering the globe is going to be just a blip.

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            If we were going to change we would have by now. Despite technology progressing, people have always been what we are now, just as smart, just as stupid, just as selfish and self destructive. We’re still fighting literally the same war over the bible that we’ve been fighting since the moment we made up the bible. Time is a flat circle that only consists of about 100 years.

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    Gerardo Rodriguez, 45, of Temecula, faces charges that include assault with a deadly weapon, child endangerment and assault by a public officer in connection with the incident. According to attorney Greg Kirakosian, Rodriguez pointed a firearm at his teenage client.

    “My client, 17-year-old Mexican-American, was just dropping somebody off there,” Kirakosian said.

    Surveillance video captured the confrontation, which happened shortly after 10 p.m. on Nov. 10 in Temecula. At the time, the teen, who is a U.S. citizen, was driving along Daybrook Terrace, taking a friend home when he was confronted by Rodriguez.

    “Get out of the car. Put it in park,” Rodriguez can be heard ordering the teen in the video.

    After hearing of the commotion, the boy’s mother arrived at the scene with her son’s passport to prove his citizenship. The boy’s father called the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department, who arrived shortly after.

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/off-duty-federal-agent-arrest-temecula/3805911/

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    In of itself, its not inherently illegal to detain someone when you’re not a cop (e.g., shopkeepers’ privilege). Same holds true if you see someone firebombing a school. You can detain someone for criminality until police arrive.

    Just, ICE isn’t a police force related to a criminal matter. Immigration is civil under Article II. It’s why they cannot enter your home or a business on their own like cops can, and they cannot get a warrant from an immigration judge to do so since immigration proceedings are an executive agency matter under homeland security. That makes the immigration judge an administrative judge under Article II rather than a full judge under Article III. So, they cannot detain someone while off duty in any manner related to immigration.

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      Citizen’s arrest is generally pretty narrow in what / when it allows, even with the added protections to the process shopkeepers privilege grants to buisnesses.

      The major hurdle is in most states you have to have witnessed the offense occur, (or a similarly high bar of burden of proof) or and in most states it must be a felony they commited.

      Illegal immigracommitted. Only misdemeanor, unless someone has committed the offense multiple times. (Illegal reentry)

      So in most states, the only way one could make a valid citizen’s arrest of an illegal immigrant would be if you litterally watched them sneak over the border multiple times.

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    7 months ago

    I’m GLAD we’re giving BILLIONS of Tax Payer dollars to these People who are KIDNAPPING CHILDREN!