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    This is exactly what the NRA told us for decades would happen under Democrats.

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      But this is happening to immigrants and people of color; not white, hetero conservative Christians. So it’s completely fine. /s

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        I’m not sure the /s is really even necessary at this point right? That’s exactly what supporters of this are saying over and over. I guess all it’s missing of course is that every single person that’s not a US citizen (or the right kind of us citizen) is a violent criminal rapist, murderer, and pedophile, who also sells and distributes every drug ever made and is also lazy and unemployed while somehow stealing billions of tax payer dollars. They are all essentially perennial all star criminals.

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    Look at these Nazi psychos. Half a (typo edit) brigade in full military gear to take on an unarmed woman who has more balls than all of these losers combined. They’re treating a peaceful city like a war zone.

    When is our state government going to step in and push back with force?

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      Democrats still think being unarmed and asking politely will make Republicans listen. You also dont realize cop demographic also mostly filled with people who voted Republican and want this shit happening.

      Y’all will never get it.

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          Clearly she should’ve shot at them, got their armor, and gotten herself plus her children and anyone else in the building or even behind the building killed.

          Where’s the state national guard? I know they’re on standby, this is when they start taking action. I get that Walz is afraid of where this will lead but that’s on the administration, not him.

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            State national guard are able to (and have been) federalized. There are few armed forces in states that solely answer to the governor (and can’t be overridden by the federal government).

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              The reason I asked about them was because Walz ordered them in standby after Wednesday, so I’m not sure why they’re still standing by

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                To prevent rioting or protests that morph into violent clashes leading to threats to the local population.


                Side note, a helicopter has been I hovering a couple miles north of my house for the last 10 min. Can’t see him but I can hear them…

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      Cause they’re all pussy incels who like to LARP with guns. Now they can do it while getting tax payer money and all the military equipment they can hold from the clearance bin at Wal-Mart.

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    Textbook civil behavior from the woman filming and speaking, clearly restraining herself, asking for a warrant for the intrusion.

    Textbook fascism from the invaders. Door to door searches for… What? Humans? Yeah it’s been happening since forever but this is scaled up orchestrated violence.

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    A bunch of pussies hiding behind masks and dark glasses and flashing flashlight at camera to not be recognized. They know what they are doing is wrong but they love hurting women and children too much to stop.

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    It’s fucking back to cowboy country. No rules of Law apply Anymore. Start shoot the dangerious People at your door America. Isn’t that why you love your guns?

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        I’ll go further than that. If you shoot, prepare for a ‘swat-lite’ squad to attempt to breach, and then after they’ve embarrassed themselves, for the local cops, nearby fbi, and atf to waco your ass… unless you’re in a rural area, and then it’s ruby ridge all over.

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          Then, what was the point of guns, when it says it is to defend yourself from your government, then I gues the retarded gun laws was useless after all right?

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            The point was for people to form local “well-regulated militias” to act as a deterrent to federal overreach, but our culture of rugged individualism led to a different and very stupid interpretation of the 2nd amendment.

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            That was a lie used to sell more guns to idiots.

            What the 2nd amendment actually means nowadays is law abiding citizens have to live under the threat of constant gun violence. They can “gun” up if they want to dramatically increase the chance that they or their family will be shot and of course help make gun corporations rich.

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            Honestly? To defend yourself primarily against your neighbors. Plenty of times the US hasn’t been dumb enough to go this quasi-official route; they just would rile up ordinary citizens and then sit back and just not interfere as those citizens went in and lynched and burned entire cities.

            For more history on this, you can start with the Tulsa massacre and work up from there.

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      Intimidation, mostly.

      But rifles would typically be what are used for this kind of work, planned raids. Pistols are for when you really don’t think you’ll need a gun. They’re vastly inferior, but much easier to carry.

      These men are very poorly trained. They should not be holding their rifles pointed upward. It’s a more comfortable position that feels natural, but it’s very easy for an opponent to block the rifle so that it cannot be lowered into a firing position. Training tells you to keep the rifle pointed downward, because if someone attempts to keep you from raising it, you can drop to your knees to level the gun and fire.

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      What else are they doing to attach their AliExpress punisher holo sight too?

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    Where the fuck are the NRA and the 2A stand up to a tyrannical government folks now that the US has a tyrannical government that needs standing up to? It’s almost like they were a bunch of weekend warriora with murder fantasies all along and once push came to shove their micro-penises folded in on themselves and they are cowering in their bedrooms with the lights turned off.

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    Is MN not a Castle Doctrine state? Thought it was. I could see this stuff going really, really sideways in a state like NH or TX, both as Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground states. If no-badge, no-law thugs in balaclavas roll up and break into your house, how can that differ from a “real” break-in?

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      I honestly have no idea about my state, but if someone bursts into my home that I’m not expecting, they’re getting filled with holes, idc who you are. Like someone else in this thread said, better to go out dead than be “disappeared” to who knows where for illegal reasons.

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      Castle doctrine in my state. Unfortunately I don’t live in a blue state Trump hates directly at the moment.

      Edit: Also only person in my apartment, so if they’re coming for me, it’s gotten beyond the point of bad. To where it’s better to die there than be taken away and /disappeared/.

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    Lmao the chunky ass gravy seal flashing the taser just froze up when she didn’t cower in fear

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      I got a headache just from watching the video. Flashing lights like this when not dealing with a actual threat should definitely be considered a form of assault.

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    But make sure all protests are peaceful and don’t cause too much trouble. Resisting is what Trump wants, that will give them the excuse to do what they are currently doing…

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    So should I start a timer to see how long it’ll be until this goes very badly wrong and people start dying again?

    And the 2 FA people are crickets, as expected

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      No. Not silent. I just discovered my mom is pushing a fundraiser for the ICE shooter’s family. The brainwashing is extraordinary. A cop could beat me to death in the street and she’d be there apologizing to the cop for his bruised knuckles.

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      Remember, if you want to go through body armor, you’ll either have a hell of a time finding AP ammo, need to hand-load your own, or – the economical, thinking man’s choice – have 12 gauge slugs*. Buckshot and regular FMJ will not cut it unless you’re more confident in your shot placement under pressure than I am (in which case, aim for the face or the groin, but not center mass)

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        Personally, I think 00 and 000 buckshot would do fine. The spread may allow even an barely trained shooter to wing a limb or neck, which tend to be unarmored. You don’t need a instantly fatal wound, just one that incapacitates.

        The important thing is to have a shotgun that affords you the ability to fire two or three times on demand, just in case the other ICE decide to fight rather than fly.

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        If they are close enough to me to film as close as I’ve seen, I feel like they’re close enough for face shots?

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          You might get the one in front of you but the ones behind them will light you up and not only kill you but everyone in the house because they will empty those AR mags. Being a MP in the Army I trained urban warfare a lot and these guys most likely have only trained once. They will freak out and just hose the whole house with no regard for children or anyone else. This is being done to get a response so elections can be postponed. I don’t know the answer anymore.

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            If something doesn’t happen before the elections, something will be orchestrated.

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            True but I think that ICE will stop going into houses very quickly if a few point guys get smoked. They’re willing to kill but are they willing to die? I don’t think they are.

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              Fuck direct confrontations. These small-dick losers are babies with axes to grind. If we can learn the intended target, boobytrap that shit. Do some Home Alone shit, for real. Cover them in Nickelodeon slime and feathers. Better yet, borrow a page from Mark Robert and make sure they can never use their equipment without sparkling like the special little boys they are when you unload glitter bombs all over them.

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              Perhaps, perhaps they will fucking bomb them instead, or simply find more meatheads, some arrogant enough to attack anyways.

              An organized effort by the state will not be stopped by random acts of heroism. There must some kind of organized resistance. Perhaps actions that would be classified as terrorism and I 'd rather not get more into it or I 'll probably get banned from .world.

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              Are you willing to get you and your family killed? What you are asking is for one family to sacrifice for us to make ICE scared. I don’t think anyone wants their family to get smoked.

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                Calm down. I live by myself and have no kids and no one is asking you to make your 10-year old hide in a corner with a rifle pointed a door.

                ICE running into another Micah Xavier Johnson is matter of when not if.

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          While getting fired upon in return (which you presumably will be, immediately, if you’re telling them to fuck off or be shot and they’re not fucking off)?

          Heads are small targets and hard to hit if they’re moving, and they move a lot even when the body they’re attached to is not actively trying to dodge gunfire. If you want to take out more than just the one you surprise, I would strongly recommend something that can punch holes in body armor – if you’re gonna go down this route, go down with >1 KDR.

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          If they are close enough to shoot you in the face three times, they are close enough to be shot in the face three times.

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      How? They barely understand how to stack/clear a room, but also have way more personnel to cover fire as well as what looks like at least level 3a armor.

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        Not sure if listing the exact details are allowed for this community, but for starters, it is far easier to acquire explosive or lethally dangerous chemical compounds that do not give a shit about level IIIa plates or soft armor, especially with enough fragmentation or corrosion. It is also relatively simple to create an electronic or fuse system for both methods, or to use an “Semi-autonomous/RC delivery system” to avoid personal bodily harm, as a civilian with minimal barriers or oversight.

        Additionally, a neighborhood whose residents trust one another and are willing to come to action are a significant barrier to any individual person being raided - difficult to stack all angles with one team if nobody on the block is going to be a bystander.

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          But I think that is the problem. Are you the people on you block willing to defend you and yours? Are you willing to defend them when they are being raided? These are hard questions people need to ask themselves. Think about how this shit went down in Germany in the 30s.

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            Right? We can seemingly barely scrape together communities to merely watch and report on ice movements, much less gather enough who are willing to throw away their lives by shooting at them.

            Imagine even getting people to get rid of the automatic devices that track you everywhere in your neighborhood (ring cameras, helloooo, and now the flock cameras and similar license plate readers that the government has had everywhere for years before that).

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            That is indeed variable, I’ll concede that. The initiative for communities to band together has to start before effective deterrence is established.

            However, you are not out of options when forced to confront armored agents with just your family or on your lonesome. That’s what I’m trying to underscore, so individuals can become crafty and observant, rather than just embracing despair.

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      Sure if it’s one or two but you can’t fight 10 of them like in this video. Though my bet would be that these little bitches would scram immediatly when fought back.

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        You only need to get one of them. We out number ICE. Don’t delete my comment. I’m not advocating for violence, I’m just pointing out the K/D ratio needed to put a stop to this particular flavor of fasch.

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        I don’t need to win, just need to loose fast enough to avoid a fate worse than death.

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    Are you white and middle class? You’d better fucking sit up and take notice. That’s not enough to protect you from these government thugs anymore.

    You, me, and everyone we know are on the menu. Say the wrong thing, you’ll get your door smashed in.