• ozoned@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    Can I ask any content creators to consider Peertube first? Youtube can be set up to pull your videos from Peertube via RSS. That way you can use Youtube as a platform where folks can find and watch you, but you can also keep your content and build your community on YOUR own platform?

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      Does peertube pay content creators? If not, good luck convincing any of them. A lot are doing this as their job.

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        It also needs to be less of a hot UX mess to increase uptake.

        To be fair, it’s better than it used to be. But still not good.

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        NOPE. Because ANYONE can run their own Peertube, build their own communities, have your communities help fund you (as they’re already doing now, see pretty much ALL of them asking for people to support them via patreon), put what you want on your Peertube, and then have the safe for YT stuff get pulled to Youtube without doing much work other than setting up the link.

        So you can upload to Peertube and have Youtube pull it. Why not invest in your own platform and community?

        It’s not for everyone. That’s fine. But Google doesn’t care about you, why not care about yourself and your comunity? You can run a Peertube for like $10-$20/month.

        I’m bullish on Fediverse though. I could be wrong.

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          I understand the advantages of a federated system for the users. But if we’re asking full time content producers to give up their sole income and move to a platform they can’t monetize, that’s going to be a really tough sell.

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            Ads don’t generate much revenue for content creators. Sponsorships, merchandise, and donations via Patreon are where the income flows. All that could work with Peertube too.

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            It doesn’t HAVE to be everyone. There are tons of under served communities.

            We will never go toe to toe with Google. Someday a company might be able to with federated servers.

            More likely interoperability laws could force Youtube to open.

            But so many folks don’t need or want to go get big.

            Education, religions, private businesses.

            Everyone is SO FOCUSED on like Mr beast or some other big youtuber. No, they won’t switch. But what about your local library?

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              Everyone is SO FOCUSED on like Mr beast or some other big youtuber.

              It’s the medium sized people who are the problem. Mr beast has product endorsements and a show on Amazon. He could live comfortably without youtube. But people like davie504, Cody’s lab, tasting history, all those mid sized channels who do this for a living and are the whole reason I go to YouTube in the first place simply can’t afford to migrate somewhere they won’t get paid.

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                I wouldn’t expect people to destroy their livelihood for this. We can have both. Also YouTube started with no money. Lots of people want to share their hobbies. And more and more are turning away from big tech. This one happen over night. But how does the flood start? One drop at a time.

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            Its most really an advantage for video. Do you think peertube could ever be as bug as YouTube? I’m not even talking popularity just bandwidth and storage.

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              Anyone 1 Peetube? Nope. And it’s not meant to be. The entire Fediverse ecosystem could dwarf current big texh. Entirely as anyone can run one.

              We’ll never replace YouTube, but we don’t HAVE to in order to exist.

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            And if younger big you probably have more people invested in your community.

            Besides these numbers from big social media aren’t what we need. We need communities, unders served by big tech, with people that matter to THEM.

            Not random trolls watching videos just to argue with each other. Most of the videos behind Peertube will probably never see the general public. But I’d imagine the YouTube videos people watch are the 1-5% of all content on YouTube. Rest are shit no one ever sees or they’re locked behind a wall that people don’t want you to see as they belong to a business or something.

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      Never going to happen. Could you imagine if a video went viral.

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        You’re thinking like a YouTube. We can he something completely different. We can’t replace YouTube, we can help serve under represented communities.

        And even then, viral will mean something different. Also once your video is transcoded, the only work to do is deliver the content. There’s S3 and CDN’s , but even a lot of direct ISPs will allow you terabytes of bandwidth before they start caring.