• Linearity@infosec.pub
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      23 hours ago

      Wtf is wrong with this place, why is everyone fighting
      And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?

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        15 hours ago

        This is a site populated mostly by the too edgy or too contrarian for Reddit, with the same flaws in incentive systems as Reddit, why are you surprised lol.

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        And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?

        He took a fascist turn during Trump 1 and never really recovered his image. Got into a bunch of weird exploitative shit, not unlike Mr Beast. The most notable being when he tested the Fiverr service and paid five dollars to get Indian freelance actors to laugh and show a sign saying ‘Death to all Jews’.

        After that, he started getting deplatformed and his following fell off considerably. So, like a bunch of other has-been YouTube starlets, he decided to get even more edgy and reactionary, further poisoning his image. It’s the same death spiral Russell Brand and Rob Schneider fell down.

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          The nazi who shot and killed 51 Muslim worshipers in Christchurch in 2017, shouted ‘subscribe to pewdiepie’ at the start of his live streamed rampage

          you’ll have to excuse me if I never let that go

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          Not to defend them or completely dismiss their part in all that, pretty sure it was just someone else sending the fiverr video to them and them opening it while streaming. But the latter incident, where they shouted some slurs on air while playing some game, that’s I think more inexcusable. But I always got the impression they never were actual nazi or far right despite the subject matter of the incidents, it’s more just them being an idiot and trying to be funny and edgy for content and missing the target entirely on a couple of occasions. I think the aftermath speaks for itself, they did some reflecting and ended up changing the formula and content type entirely, and we are now seeing the fruits of that effort.

          I don’t mean to belittle the shit they’ve pulled, but I also don’t want to paint anyone irredeemable, even less when they actually manage to do introspection and change. We should encourage that and highlight that instead. I’d reserve the unconditional hate and spite for those that deserve it, that don’t change, don’t reflect, perhaps actually mean the things they do and say, with passion.

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            3 hours ago

            Is bigotry for clout not somehow worse than at least holding a bigoted conviction?

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            10 hours ago

            no its just virtue signalers and keyboard warriors remembering hed did a bad thing that one time on the bridge and assumed hes a Nazi now.

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              hed did a bad thing that one time

              Far more than the one time. He had a whole routine about exploiting overseas labor to perform humiliating stunts.

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            Yeah I’m certainly not going to claim to be an avid or long time watcher of pewdiepie but… No he didn’t? The fiverr thing happened, sure. But the rest of that is wild conjecture and misinformation.

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        lot of old farts on here that never grew up on youtube, just ignore the bitter old heads and people who think there too highspeed to have ever enjoyed his videos.

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              17 hours ago

              He said the nword once (terrible thing), almost a decade ago, apologized for it and improved (I guess) as a person
              I’m sick of internet people calling for a guillotine whenever someone makes a mistake even once

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                yeah, its part of why the internet sucks, you make some bad decisions, fall for some stupid propaganda or listen to the wrong person, and you’re branded forever. People make bad decisions. It happens.

                gods forbid someone make a mistake and then take a step back to reexamine their lives to try and be a better person.

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                12 hours ago

                The person I was responding to said

                I personally love him for being the same guy all this years.

                My point was not necessarily that he needs to be excommunicated from humanity, but that they might want to reconsider whether him “being the same guy all this years” is a good thing

                (I do not actually give a single shit about Pewdiepie in any fashion positive or negative)