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  • TootSweet@lemmy.worldtoEmulation@lemmy.mlWas this BS always in the EULA ?
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    5 months ago

    So if some company added to their software a short EULA, with no frivolous provisions, that you could ctrl+f in, and access after you’ve accepted and installed the program, that you can reasonably read before making a purchase, that you can copy to the clipboard or print, and that otherwise didn’t have any glaring things indicating it’s in bad faith, would you be down with EULAs?

    Let’s say the whole text is something like:

    Copyright 2024 Butthole Software LTD. All rights reserved. Our trademarks are ours and you don’t have any license to use them. This software is provided as-is with no warranty express or implied. We hope you enjoy our game but by accepting this EULA and installing it, you agree not to emulate it where “emulate” means to play it on any system (physical gaming console or operating system) other than the system(s) on which Butthole Software LTD officially released this game.

    Or let’s say it was that text plus a plainly-stated contractually-binding prohibition against cheats and mods. Or a prohibition on streaming the game. Or a prohibition on playing any game by Ass Pucker LLC ever again.



  • Damn. Am I about to defend FUTO/GrayJay?

    The license is a lot better than it was previously. (And by that I mean it’s less worse than a basic MIT-style FOSS license, not that it’s “good”.) Now it does allow derivative works (just not derivative works that remove the “pay FUTO” button, and it doesn’t allow selleing GrayJay or derivative works, and it requires a “prominent” notice if you’ve made changes.)

    And the old version had a bit about how FUTO could change the terms at any time for no reason, which basically made it entirely useless.

    You can not fork it and retain ownership of the code.

    Technically, MIT-style licenses (let alone copy-left licenses) don’t either, I’m pretty sure. Though that’s more true in one sense of the GrayJay Core License than of Open Source licenses.


  • Yeah, I’m salty at them for diluting the term “Open Source”.

    And, yes, I’m more aligned with the Free Software movement than the Open Source movement. But in practice, all Open Source software is also Free Software, as long as they’re not misusing the term “Open Source” like FUTO recently apologized for. (Though this page still says “All FUTO-funded projects are expected to be open-source or develop a plan to eventually become so.” which I think is just a holdover from before they promised to stop misusing the term “Open Source” that they haven’t caught and fixed yet.)

    But still, their license is kindof shitty. And maybe it’s just a narcissism of small diffrences thing, but it feels more nefarious in some ways than just a straight-forwardly proprietary license would be.

    Anyway, no chance I’ll ever use GrayJay unless they some day decide to put it under a properly FOSS license. Even if only because there’s no way I’m going to go to the trouble of side-loading it or any Android app store other than the F-Droid I’ve got on my no-Google-apps LineageOS phone now.

    And just in general purposefully and maliciously misusing terms like “Open Source” and “FOSS” is a pretty transparent capitalist scumbag move. And the “apology” for doing so is hardly an apology. They spend more of the apology casting shade at FOSS than apologizing. And then they have the gall to tell people that their shitty-ass GrayJay license is some panacea of consumer freedom or privacy? It’s worse than any Open Source license. If they really wanted to address the consumer privacy and freedom isuses in tech, they’d use AGPL. But no, their “improvement” on the BSD/MIT-style licenses is “don’t make any versions without ‘pay FUTO money’ buttons and don’t charge for it.” Good fucking job, FUTO, you fixed enshittification.

    Bah. Yeah. I’m pissed at FUTO.

    Thanks for your post. You’re getting lots of downvotes, but I upvoted. Folks ought to know how scummy FUTO is. I don’t really blame Rossman directly so much (though, honestly, I haven’t really followed him enough to know.) I suspect he may just be kinda clueless about FOSS and got swept up in FUTO’s rhetoric (even though there’s no substance behind their rhetoric) that they’re going to fix the industry or whatever. He just got pissed at Apple about their hostility to device repair (based), but then got hoodwinked by scummy capitalist bullshit.