5th and 10th especially too. 5th is neither here nor there at the moment that we are aware, civil asset forfeiture and all that. But the 10th says unless it’s spelled out as a federal power, it’s not a federal power and a state power.

The feds do not have the authority to send good squads around like they are, and like they are planning. They have the authority to regulate interstate commerce, and that’s about it. While removing illegals could be that, they are exceeding their authority, especially with claims they can execute citizens regulating interstate commerce with impunity.

They are building protest breaking good squads and the like, that will be a big violation of the 10th, as is this insurrection act they plan on calling on ever pretext they can.

Maybe we can agree to disagree here. On my understanding, and to my reading, their being under the direct control of the government makes them not paramilitary. They are security services, with police, the fbi, dea, customs and border protection, and the rest.

They are a goon squad to be sure. Setting the precedent of executing a citizen under false pretense then slandering her as a terrorist, and persecuting her friends and organizations she was with to justify it is a bad precedent. The administration, and the party the president is just a figurehead at this point this doesn’t end with the president, wants to go full nazi, and ice is their aspiring SS. Brownshirts would be the private groups that pursue their critics, although to date the aspiring ones were more like Italy’s blackshirts, less top down control.

The establishment democrat cheerleader doesn’t think the ones arguing for new leadership and popular reform are in good faith, got it.

No one cares what you think, about anything, that was part of my point, what you think means nothing until you own up to what you’ve helped do, and explain how you are going to do better from now on.

But why would you? Your leaders don’t. They instruct you how to use emotional arguments and libel to obscure the issue. You never answered the point because you have no answer in reason. Your only arguments are ad hominems, and you just keep lobbing them, knowing enough of the sheep don’t know any better than to believe you, as you drag the united states into a fascist dictatorship.

idk whatever startpage gave me under a search, as I checked after you challenged the definition.

They are under the direct control of the government though. A judge could say Ice has to fuck off, and they would by law be forced to fuck off. Maybe if we hit the point where ice is disregarding lawful orders. Even then though, they are following the president’s orders. Under color of law.

Proud boys, 3 percenters, atomwaffen organizing into military like outfits and attacking protests, that would be paramilitary. Ice is just a security service.

Also though your definitions back up what I said do they not? Ice is none of those things.

I was just going off the dictionary. I do not think ICE would fit any definition of paramilitary. I do not really care enough to get into a big pissing match about it, although I bet I could piss way farther than you.

Paramilitaries are like military of civilian groups. They are not employees of the state.

Wikipedia is hardly an authority either though I did not read it just rechecked the dictionary definition.

I could change that definition in wiki now and you could change it back and we could argue trading sources, but it does not change the word’s meaning.

Why are they toting assault rifles everywhere they go in the first place? They’re not getting in gun fights all the time. Heavy Weaponry like that should be held in reserved not Frontline. It is because the US wants to turn the United States into Gaza in the West Bank.

Paramilitary would be like a militia outside of direct political control. This is just jackboots. Gestapo in training if you please, not paramilitary.

Patriot front going door to door with guns would be paramilitary.