Interesting. I wouldn’t have expected commercial AI assistants to compute a lot of stuff on device. For speed / response time reasons, and battery drain. Other than maybe speech recognition… Guess I’m not up to date anymore. I haven’t tried Gemini. Most fancy stuff I use is speech recognition and Google Lens, respectively “Offline Translator” to translate Chinese, Japanese or Korean writing on products in the Asia supermarket. That app is perfectly alright with just the 6GB on my phone. But yeah, generative AI in form of a large language model or an image generator won’t fit. I’ve tried a few other open-source local AI apps and it can’t do any of the usable AI models.

Does anyone realistically use 16GB of memory on their phone? I think my Pixel 8a has 6GB and I think I’m alright?

Yeah, as I said, they love licenses. Their code is FUTO Source First License 1.kb(?). Their models FUTO Model Weights License 1.0. The dataset MIT and seems the training code is proprietary. That’s 4 differently licensed parts that go into one product.

Thanks, I forgot about that 😟

BTW, there’s other voice input apps. I changed phones since I last tried but there were other good ones which were more responsive than FUTO’s software. My F-Droid shows Sayboard, Outspoke (via IzzyOnDroid’s Repo) and Whisper+

Sure. I just installed the Keyboard. I’ll try it for a few days. But yeah. Usually I try to stick to Free Software, so there’s a good chance I’m gonna remove it from my device again. Unless they manage too get me hooked on swipe typing 😅 But I think Heliboard also uses a closed-source library for swipe typing.

Yeah, it’a been a while, but last time I tried swipe typing with Heliboard, it wasn’t good. I forgot what issue was, but I uninstalled it after a few days.

Interesting indeed. Their dataset is under MIT license. Their resulting models under a special license.

And I have no clue if there’s code available to customize it, train or fine-tune the models. And what license that would entail.

They often do “interesting” stuff with licensing. Pretty much since the beginning of FUTO. I’d also question the choice of wording in the MIT license. Swipe patterns aren’t exactly “software”. And I wonder if their community knew they were releasing their contributions under some license. I can’t find any paragraph detailing it on the current data contribution page.

Just a bit of a shame how they always frame it in their public relations. Of course they talk about the MIT license in their videos. They seem to known that’s good PR. But they casually drop all the rest and don’t talk about the license of what they did. Or if it’s even actually possible to adapt it to other projects, given that requires some additional code and not just the dataset or weights.

The “license” for the swipe typing models. That’s what the link references. FUTO already has their own source-available license for software. And seems now they created one for AI models as well: https://huggingface.co/futo-org/futo-swipe/blob/main/LICENSE.md

It’s source-available, not FOSS. I don’t think it meets the inclusion requirements for F-Droid.

FUTO run their own F-Droid repo because of that: https://app.futo.org/fdroid/repo/

In the meantime, FUTO Swipe is also released for you to use in your own open-source projects! We recognize that this technology has been locked behind proprietary and closed-source walls for far too long. To learn more, check out https://swipe.futo.tech/

Oh boy, FUTO is really committed in adding terms and conditions to everything. I wonder if a contract applies, since copyright on AI models is a bit questionable.

Got to give it a try, though. Swipe typing would be nice to have 😅

Edit: A bit of extra work to set up German language, and half the documentation pages are still missing, but the keyboard works like a charm.

Uh. Blog is down. All I get is an 404 for the link in the Mastodon post.

Edit: Here’s a link that works: https://github.com/eleboucher/towonel

Online classified ads, your neighbour/relative/friends attic, the access road towards the recycling center/landfill, a refurbished PC shop… From my experience the world is filled with old hardware that’s plenty good enough, just doesn’t run Windows 1X anymore so it becomes e-waste. You can of course also buy a Mini-PC on Amazon or use your existing computer if it has enough RAM to host a virtual machine.

I feel the majority of it isn’t really Android, but some Google Apps… Google Camera, Instagram, Find hub… RCS messages aren’t in AOSP either… The threat detection will be inside of the Google services… So I won’t get most of this on my phone. And I wonder if OS verification and hardware isolation are features to protect my security, or whether that’s to safeguard some DRM stuff and whatever some dubious app developers don’t want me to touch on my own phone.

… don’t forget about the backups.

And if your major issue is putting things in wrong locations… Maybe learn about some abstraction layers, so next time you’re able to just move it, instead of tearing it down?

I think the added benefit of an OpenWRT router is, you get 3 more ports (for your TV, Playstation and PC), plus a Wifi network. And it’s really hard to break it. But a MiniPC with OPNsense, of course will be more powerful. And some more advanced things have been notoriously difficult to set up in OpenWRT, maybe OPNsense does it a bit better.

I have a port forwarding without any tunnel to third parties and Wireguard.

I think there’s pros and cons to everything. That way would have been less of a dickhead move towards the Forgejo developers. But a big letdown to admins as they don’t know what’s up with the software they’re running on their servers. The way the author chose gives some new intelligence to admins, and they can now act on it, since it’s public knowledge. But it’s annoying to the devs.

I guess I as a Forgejo user am kinda greatful they did it this way. Now I got to learn the story and can allocate 2h on the weekend to see if my personal Forgejo container is isolated enough and whether the backups still work.

(But that’s just my opinion after reading one side of the story. Maybe there’s more to the story and they’re being a dick nonetheless…)

Edit: And regarding just dropping the security team an informal mail… I don’t know if that’s clever. You’d normally either follow some security policy, or don’t engage. Sending them other kinds of mails which violate their policy (an internal carrot) might not be the best choice.

Thx very much. That’s valuable info. I edited my comment and crossed it off my list of software to evaluate for future projects. I already got the vibe-coding and a bit of sketchiness by scrolling through the latest commits and issue tracker.

Thanks for pointing it out. Yeah it does. I just copy-pasted what I found and didn’t check.

Yes. I’ve been somewhat lucky as well. Upgraded my homeserver to 48GB to run a few virtual machines and maxed out my old laptop well before prices skyrocketed. Got to check if I still pay the ~8€ a month for my netcup VPS or if they increased price for existing customers as well…