Phoenixz

Care to elaborate?

Like seriously, with the PHP extension gone from the URL you wouldn’t know it’s PHP but somehow it’s old because…?

it’s not really a proper language

Why, oh true Scotsman?

It’s slower than compiled languages

Probably, but it requires a whole lot less work to get something done. One developer pays for 20 big ass servers, so if I have to spin up one or two extra servers over requiring way less developers, that is a no-brainer

The go syntax is cleaner than PHP

Go kinda looks/feels like JavaScript to me whereas PHP feels more like C. I find modern PHP syntax to be cleaner than go, but that is a personal opinion. Either way, maintainability has more to do with your developers and coding guidelines than with the language itself.

So does your comment, what’s your point? Are you really trying to tell me that an app developed in PHP 15 years ago still feels old? Because doh.

Next cloud feels old to you?

• PHP doesn’t have a built in web server because it doesn’t need one, makes development a whole lot easier as each page is it’s independent process. No worries about memory loss, state corruption, or other issues. IMHO it adds to its security and ease of handling

• It’s super fast and easy to setup and get going

• Web sockets work just fine, I use them daily on dozens of servers doing hundreds of requests / sec all day every day

• They did an audit and found issues? Great, I applaud people searching and finding issues. Shall we do the same for Rust, go, or chuckle JavaScript?

• You’re unfamiliar.with the language. <<< Yeah, that is the standard reason for hating PHP, it’s not <insert my personal favorite language>

Why would anyone even use Synology?

Just buy a pc with big hard drives

So really your only reason for possibly not liking next cloud is that it’s PHP, correct?

What is the problem with PHP? I keep asking it and until now every response has been near me worthy. “Don’t like PHP because some function calls are not consistent.”, “don’t like PHP because 20 years ago it had Manu unsafe practices!”, that sort of nonsense.

What is the problem with PHP, for you?

PHP junk

So serious question: what,.in your mind, is junk about PHP?

Well yeah, sure, but that doesn’t really add to your security and it only costs you work and resources

Move the ssh port to higher ranges, 30-60000. That alone will stop 99% of the attacks

Disable root logins, now usernames must be guessed too which will make success even lower

Then require SSH keys

At that point it’s like being in a nuclear fallout nshelter behind a 3 meter thick steel door and you can hear some zombies scratching on the outside… I’m not worried about any of that shit

… I’m using Chromecast and Google TV, though Chromecast isn’t very good, really, and Google TV stared showing commercials every now and then since a while ago, so that too will be on its way out.

But yeah, they’re supported

Hellooooo jellyfin!

Only use open source software

Switch to jellyfin, it’s really at the point where it’s ready for everyone

Do you have any experience installing only office?

I’ve tried installing it many times over the past decade with only one successful attempt about a decade ago.

Every few years I try to install it again and fail

I’m trying to install it now but again, nothing. I’ve tried installing it using the official scripts which wreck the operating system. Dame for using the official debs.

So I tried using the docker version and that just doesn’t do anything at all. I try opening the page on the right port and it connects and disconnects immediately.

I’ve used only office and it’s awesome. However, nothing is as hard to install as onlyofffice

webmin

Shudder

What would be a good open source option with these features?

Interesting

closed source

And I noped out right away, especially if it has to run on my servers

The point is hoping there are enough dumb people out there willing to pay for software that is freely available after you lie some to their face.

See also anything that Microsoft produces, they are a billion dollar company with that shit somehow.

Also, move ssh to a different, higher port. Since ssh isn’t exactly for noobs, changing the port is easy enough to work with and that alone already reduces port scans and what not

Am i the only one left who doesn’t want a snap docker Kubernetes container and just installs nextcloud in a normal way and never had any problems?

It’s been a while now but I remember it happened when Plex forked over their users