Seems that the Swiss legislature may pass a law requiring ProtonVPN to start banning certain domains from being access by French users (mostly illegal sports streaming sites)

For those using ProtonVPN, is the writing on the wall?

  • irmadlad@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    (mostly illegal sports streaming sites)

    This doesn’t accomplish what the legislature intends. It never does. For instance, in the US, Texas in all their wisdom that can’t keep an electrical grid running smooth without duct tape and bailing wire, has decided to ‘ban’ PornHub. It makes all the christofascist’s dicks hard because in their mind, they have rooted out evil and destroyed it. (See Satanic Panic in the 80s) However, their weak, little minds cannot comprehend the fact that for every technology, there exists an equal, yet undoing technology.

    Do it for the children I hear them say, and I would agree in this example, that children should not be viewing porn. A better solution would be to make parents actually parent. You brought a service into your home that can be both highly detrimental and highly beneficial, and then you turn around give it all, including a cel phone, to a very inquisitive mind uninhibited, unmonitored, and uncontrolled in any manner. You’re the problem, not porn.

    /end soapbox

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    1 day ago

    I don’t know if it’s the same law but they’ve already said they’d move countries, anywhere with laws suitable for the service

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      1 day ago

      Would they really though? Being in Switzerland is a huge part of their brand and marketing.

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        22 hours ago

        The only reason it’s part of their branding because Switzerland is notoriously respectful of privacy. If they stop being that then that’s no longer a selling point.

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          12 hours ago

          But this has nothing against privacy just piracy.

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            11 hours ago

            Privacy is what protects you against criminal charges or being banned by your ISP

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          13 hours ago

          You people are going to hate me for thid but it’s not a privacy concern if they block piracy domains ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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            52 minutes ago

            Cool.

            In other news, Swiss law makers claim opening and reading all mail sent to make sure it doesn’t include the phrase “monty bojangles” is “not a privacy concern”

            My point is that in order to block a specific domain, you necessarily need to check it against a list of all legitimate domains being accessed

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Does anyone have thoughts on the IPv6 privacy extensions? They theoretically could help a lot with privacy

    The idea is that your device has tons of temporary IP addresses that can be used for various tasks like surfing the web.

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      5 hours ago

      All of your temporary privacy addresses will be coming out of the same subnet, so it’s clear they all belong to the same people.

      Ultimately the privacy extensions are just bringing IPv6’s privacy back in line with IPv4, because without the privacy extensions every single device has a separate IPv6 address based on its MAC address whereas in IPv4 most consumer networks have every device sharing a single IP.

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      Every single one of those temporary IP addresses has the same prefix, which traces back to you.

      Its about as anonymous as adding an apartment number to your own street address.

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        12 hours ago

        Yes and no. The deal is your last part is your MAC. So when your extension changes they can still track you over any ipv6 connection. The privacy extension changes the last bit so you can’t be tracked over any connection.

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          the whole point of privacy extensions is that it replaces the MAC with a random something. the address is totally unrelated to the MAC

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        9 hours ago

        That assumes that the prefix is static which it isn’t. It also assumes that you are the only one with that prefix which isn’t necessarily the case. It makes it much harder to track compared to a static IP that is tied to your device.

        If you are the only one using a static prefix then it is less useful but chances are that prefix is shared among lots of users and devices.

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      If anything just that it will break most tracking and surveillance systems that weren’t built for the tiny proportion of ipv6 hosts.

      The question is, how can get a few tens of thousands of completely random and unrelated ipv6 addresses and pick one at random for every connection I make to outside my LAN

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        9 hours ago

        They are related but the prefix is shared unless you at some with your own router. (Even then your prefix probably isn’t static)

  • Lucy :3@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    Just more confirmation that centralized VPNs, and therefore basically all VPNs most people use, are doomed to fail in their purpose, and are sometimes worse than no VPN.

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      13 hours ago

      Many sites got VPN IP list and just ban them. It’s more and more difficult with restrictions increasing subsequently.

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        i would say you want to route through as many jurisdictions as you feasibly can. For example, US investigators arent going to get any cooperation from Iran or North Korea; any trail that crosses into their borders is going to be a dead end for their investigation.

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          13 hours ago

          I like my Internet to work at at least a decent speed lol I’ll often go through 2 countries when I’m doing specific tasks but generally I just do 1 on a daily basis