I also belive in the value of words and their meanings. I think a little critical thinking goes a long way.
ICE is not part of our country’s “formal military structure” and it is an force that was “fromed by a government”. They also have military equipment however they do not have similar training yet that is on purpose and doesn’t void the previous points. These are also mostly volunteers who are joining up for a signing bonus and a chance to harm people with impunity. They are an illegitimate force occupying American citys, depoyed by a weak government that is trying to gain authority by force.
They are under the direct control of the government though. A judge could say Ice has to fuck off, and they would by law be forced to fuck off. Maybe if we hit the point where ice is disregarding lawful orders. Even then though, they are following the president’s orders. Under color of law.
Proud boys, 3 percenters, atomwaffen organizing into military like outfits and attacking protests, that would be paramilitary. Ice is just a security service.
Maybe we can agree to disagree here. On my understanding, and to my reading, their being under the direct control of the government makes them not paramilitary. They are security services, with police, the fbi, dea, customs and border protection, and the rest.
They are a goon squad to be sure. Setting the precedent of executing a citizen under false pretense then slandering her as a terrorist, and persecuting her friends and organizations she was with to justify it is a bad precedent. The administration, and the party the president is just a figurehead at this point this doesn’t end with the president, wants to go full nazi, and ice is their aspiring SS. Brownshirts would be the private groups that pursue their critics, although to date the aspiring ones were more like Italy’s blackshirts, less top down control.
Also though your definitions back up what I said do they not? Ice is none of those things.
I also belive in the value of words and their meanings. I think a little critical thinking goes a long way.
ICE is not part of our country’s “formal military structure” and it is an force that was “fromed by a government”. They also have military equipment however they do not have similar training yet that is on purpose and doesn’t void the previous points. These are also mostly volunteers who are joining up for a signing bonus and a chance to harm people with impunity. They are an illegitimate force occupying American citys, depoyed by a weak government that is trying to gain authority by force.
And the word for this is, Paramilitary.
They are under the direct control of the government though. A judge could say Ice has to fuck off, and they would by law be forced to fuck off. Maybe if we hit the point where ice is disregarding lawful orders. Even then though, they are following the president’s orders. Under color of law.
Proud boys, 3 percenters, atomwaffen organizing into military like outfits and attacking protests, that would be paramilitary. Ice is just a security service.
Yes, as is consistent with the definition of a paramilitary I posted above.
Who do you think are signing up to join ice?
Maybe we can agree to disagree here. On my understanding, and to my reading, their being under the direct control of the government makes them not paramilitary. They are security services, with police, the fbi, dea, customs and border protection, and the rest.
They are a goon squad to be sure. Setting the precedent of executing a citizen under false pretense then slandering her as a terrorist, and persecuting her friends and organizations she was with to justify it is a bad precedent. The administration, and the party the president is just a figurehead at this point this doesn’t end with the president, wants to go full nazi, and ice is their aspiring SS. Brownshirts would be the private groups that pursue their critics, although to date the aspiring ones were more like Italy’s blackshirts, less top down control.