• Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world
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    For lg tv users, see this old reddit post for how to get adfree youtube working on your tv:

    Ad-free YouTube webOS app

    Some days ago I’ve found an easy peasy method to sideload a modified ad-free YouTube IPK file to all LG OLED TVs from year 2020 on (so from line CX/GX on), but I got feedback here that with C9 TVs it works too.

    You need a computer with either Windows or macOS (I believe an iPad might do the job too) connected in the same network.

    First we have to create a free LG webOS developer account at https://webostv.developer.lge.com/login (you can change language if it’s not yours), but if you already have a normal LG account just login with it so to enable also the developer account.

    Now as a one time process go to your TV and from the Content Store download the app Developer Mode (made by LG itself).

    Launch it, put in your dev login details and enable Dev Mode Status.

    You will be asked to reboot so do it.

    At next reboot enter again that app, enable also Key Server and note down IP address and passphrase both displayed on the left side.

    Uninstall the official YouTube app from the TV (you won’t be able to run the modified app without doing this).

    Go to your computer and head to https://github.com/webosbrew/dev-manager-desktop/releases to download and install the latest release of Device Manager for webOS.

    Follow the instructions at GitHub to setup a session to connect to your TV (basically give it a name, enter both the IP and the passphrase I told you to note down before and you are done) and connect to the TV.

    If everything went well you should be connected so while having selected Apps in the left panel be sure to select also Available on top.

    Look for Homebrew Channel in the list and click Install.

    Go again to your TV, launch Homebrew Channel and there you will be able from now on to install or update YouTube AdFree and several other apps like ie. Hyperion for webOS.

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    and then they wonder why the general public works so hard to get around ads. I had no problem when it was a short 5ish second ad at the beginning. Servers and video hosting are expensive, I get it.

    Now? Now it’s pure unadulterated greed. We passed the “keep the lights on” moment a long time ago, this is just a cash cow for them.

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      Also, the ads on Youtube are just so so so fucking terrible. Like ally streaming services have ads, and they are the same old TV style ads, little 20-30 second bits of nonsense trying to be memorable about a profuct.

      Meanwhile, Youtube is trying to push these weird scammy sales pitches prrtending to be ads, often like 10+ minutes long unless you skip them when the timer hits. Its terrible.

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        God I hate that, if you lost the remote and can’t click skip yet. Don’t worry! They’re going to suddenly give you multiple minutes of slop ads while you search for it! Up to 10 minutes I’ve seen!

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      The Quest for More Money™ always means that deal you made for paying for no ads is only valid until that graph needs to go up even higher.

      Theyre darth Vader, but there is no praying they dont alter the deal any further - it will be altered, its just a matter of when.

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    Can I ask any content creators to consider Peertube first? Youtube can be set up to pull your videos from Peertube via RSS. That way you can use Youtube as a platform where folks can find and watch you, but you can also keep your content and build your community on YOUR own platform?

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      Does peertube pay content creators? If not, good luck convincing any of them. A lot are doing this as their job.

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        It also needs to be less of a hot UX mess to increase uptake.

        To be fair, it’s better than it used to be. But still not good.

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        NOPE. Because ANYONE can run their own Peertube, build their own communities, have your communities help fund you (as they’re already doing now, see pretty much ALL of them asking for people to support them via patreon), put what you want on your Peertube, and then have the safe for YT stuff get pulled to Youtube without doing much work other than setting up the link.

        So you can upload to Peertube and have Youtube pull it. Why not invest in your own platform and community?

        It’s not for everyone. That’s fine. But Google doesn’t care about you, why not care about yourself and your comunity? You can run a Peertube for like $10-$20/month.

        I’m bullish on Fediverse though. I could be wrong.

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          I understand the advantages of a federated system for the users. But if we’re asking full time content producers to give up their sole income and move to a platform they can’t monetize, that’s going to be a really tough sell.

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            Ads don’t generate much revenue for content creators. Sponsorships, merchandise, and donations via Patreon are where the income flows. All that could work with Peertube too.

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            It doesn’t HAVE to be everyone. There are tons of under served communities.

            We will never go toe to toe with Google. Someday a company might be able to with federated servers.

            More likely interoperability laws could force Youtube to open.

            But so many folks don’t need or want to go get big.

            Education, religions, private businesses.

            Everyone is SO FOCUSED on like Mr beast or some other big youtuber. No, they won’t switch. But what about your local library?

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              Everyone is SO FOCUSED on like Mr beast or some other big youtuber.

              It’s the medium sized people who are the problem. Mr beast has product endorsements and a show on Amazon. He could live comfortably without youtube. But people like davie504, Cody’s lab, tasting history, all those mid sized channels who do this for a living and are the whole reason I go to YouTube in the first place simply can’t afford to migrate somewhere they won’t get paid.

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                I wouldn’t expect people to destroy their livelihood for this. We can have both. Also YouTube started with no money. Lots of people want to share their hobbies. And more and more are turning away from big tech. This one happen over night. But how does the flood start? One drop at a time.

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            Its most really an advantage for video. Do you think peertube could ever be as bug as YouTube? I’m not even talking popularity just bandwidth and storage.

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              Anyone 1 Peetube? Nope. And it’s not meant to be. The entire Fediverse ecosystem could dwarf current big texh. Entirely as anyone can run one.

              We’ll never replace YouTube, but we don’t HAVE to in order to exist.

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            And if younger big you probably have more people invested in your community.

            Besides these numbers from big social media aren’t what we need. We need communities, unders served by big tech, with people that matter to THEM.

            Not random trolls watching videos just to argue with each other. Most of the videos behind Peertube will probably never see the general public. But I’d imagine the YouTube videos people watch are the 1-5% of all content on YouTube. Rest are shit no one ever sees or they’re locked behind a wall that people don’t want you to see as they belong to a business or something.

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      Never going to happen. Could you imagine if a video went viral.

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        You’re thinking like a YouTube. We can he something completely different. We can’t replace YouTube, we can help serve under represented communities.

        And even then, viral will mean something different. Also once your video is transcoded, the only work to do is deliver the content. There’s S3 and CDN’s , but even a lot of direct ISPs will allow you terabytes of bandwidth before they start caring.

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        I don’t have a general opinion, but given that youtube used to be an entirely free service that people put videos on with no expectation of being paid, and then google bought it, made it an effective monopoly, and have slowly turned it into the monetisation monster it is today, I don’t think anyone owes them anything.

        Also you have the right to control what content appears on your device. You are under no obligation to watch an advert just because a megacorp says so. By putting something on the internet (without a login or pay wall) they are making it freely available for anyone to download. That’s how the internet works (for now!)

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        No, if you need to so far as to have a complicated ToS, then it should be a proper contract complete with signatures on actual paper. Same for any amendments with the option to stay on the original agreement at the time of sale.

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          I agree that it should be more like a proper contract and that people should understand it. It’s absurd that we have this structure where it’s implied you read even a single word of a TOS.

          People should be attacking things like this. Not just boasting on social media about clients that hack YouTube.

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            If I had the power to mount a legal challenge against a megacorp, I would. Unfortunately all I have the power to do is share workarounds.

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    Of course they would. They just showed that people by far watch YouTube more than any other individual streaming service, and that they make more in ad revenue than most other streaming services.

    Other streaming services have long, annoying, unskippable ads too. If YouTube has a lot of marketshare, and knows a lot of people aren’t gonna get the content from, say, their favorite YouTuber, on something like Disney+, they can add all the unskippable ads they want as long as it’s close enough to the other streaming services to make people not decide to watch different content entirely.

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      NewPipe, Tubular, FreeTube, Grayjay, …

      I’ll never watch ads; that’s an unbreakable rule. If at some point third-party apps can no longer serve video, then I won’t watch it (and I’ll be finally liberated from their monopoly).

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    They can make the ads 2 hours for all I care. Haven’t seen one in years

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    One of the very first things I installed on my Fire cube was SmartTube the YouTube ads were so ridiculous already I found it unwatchable.

    I wish it had a real rival but realistically nobody’s in a position to pay content creators really except them.

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    I only ever use YouTube in a browser. I haven’t seen an ad since … oh I don’t know, since as long as I can remember. At least fifteen years.